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Write an essay in which you compare your poem with one of the others on the adoption list.

Working Together
by David Whyte

We shape our self
to fit this world

and by the world
are shaped again.

The visible
and the invisible

working together
in common cause,

to produce 
the miraculous.

I am thinking of the way
the intangible air

passed at speed
round a shaped wing

easily
holds our weight.

So may we, in this life
trust

to those elements
we have yet to see

or imagine,
and look for the true

shape of our own self,
by forming it well

to the great 
intangibles about us.

Out Beyond Ideas
by Mewlana Jalaluddin Rumi

Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing,
there is a field. I’ll meet you there.

When the soul lies down in that grass,
the world is too full to talk about.
Ideas, language, even the phrase each other
doesn’t make any sense.

     Poems for me are sometimes like love, love is hard to explain without emotion. Poems are so foreign to me because sometimes I am a person who is just to lazy to explain or comprehend what is being expressed. But the poem "Working Together" by David Whyte was one that after really examining it and really trying to get it, it made sense. I actually really like the poem! When it comes to the second poem "Out Beyond Ideas" by Mewlana Halaluddin Rumi, different story. I didn't really feel the connection I did like with the first poem. It might be because I didn't spend as much time as I did for the first poem but still sometimes poems are cool and I get it, but then others they just fly right pass me.

      Both poems have differences but they also have similarities. Some differences they have is that the first poem is longer than the second poem and the first poem is set up differently. The way the stanzas are set up are so different that they sometimes don't show the same tone or emotion. Some similarities the two poems possess is that they both talk about nature and have kind of the same meaning. The poems bring in nature and talk through nature to get there point across. That is why I feel like they have the same meaning, they both are so optimistic in there point that they both seem similar to each other.

    Poetry is such a diverse subject. I feel like poetry is in the eye of the beholder, that I can call any piece of writing that I write, a poem. But to the one who is reading it might not think so. When reading "Working Together" by David Whyte and "Out Beyond Ideas" by Mewlana Halaluddin Rumi, I believe they both have differences but also similarities because they both are poems.

Hamlet the madman??

Do you think Hamlet's nuts? After our discussions today I reflected back on all the commentary and all the productions I could remember, and it seems like the overwhelming majority talk about Hamlet being mad. But I still wonder whether his ability to see the ghost is commentary on Gertrude's blindness to the truth and Hamlet's ability to see right and wrong. In fact, I wonder if it;s the sanest thing in the world to be freaked out by feeling obligated to kill someone, and I also still wonder about Hamlet's ability to plan and say the right things (with double meanings!) under pressure. I guess he could be an endearingly fiendish sociopath, but he seems  too self-critical for that. What do you think, and what is your evidence? Especially curious about your perspectives after you read DeBoer's paper.

         Hamlet is not a madman! I believe he is like any person, he is trying to make sense of what is happening and how to deal with the problems he encounters. But when Shakespeare writes it down the way he does it kind of makes it seem like he is nuts. I bet if we all wrote out our life story or maybe just a problem that we have encountered in life, it would seem like we are crazy especially with our inner thoughts!

         I believe Hamlet could see the ghost because he has so much love and respect for his father unlike his mother, Gertrude. This is where your own preferences come into play, do you believe in ghosts? I actually have never been in contact with "ghosts" but I haven't thrown out the idea that there are ghosts in this world. My thought on that is because movies, shows, and stories come about sometimes through experience, not always but sometimes. Hamlet is not a madman for seeing his father because other's have seen him too and I bet they saw him because they have respect for him.

         When it comes to getting revenge for his father's death. I wouldn't blame him for wanting that! In life people have the feeling to get revenge and sometimes that revenge isn't the right thing or it might not even make them feel better. In Hamlet's case killing his father's killer seemed ideal, I always hear if someone killed one of their family members they would kill them. But how do we really know if we would? I wouldn't know so I don't have any expertise on that. Hamlet could be a nuts but he could just be looking for a way to express his feelings like any human being.

         Hamlet's ability to plan and say the right things under pressure is weird, but don't we all do that sometimes, like sarcasm. We all use it and it has double meanings. I don't think Hamlet is a madman or nuts, he is just trying to figure out what the right thing to do for him is and his actions might make him seem crazy but that's just life.

Hamlet on instagram ????

Intro to Poetry

• What is the significance of the title?  To work together to make a difference 
• What is the tone of the poem? Uplifting 
• What is your mood as you read it? Inspiration 
• Is there a Shift?  Where?  From what to what? No 
• What is the theme of the poem?  To work together for a common goal 

Thinking about these questions has got me to think about how to analyze poetry because I don't really get poetry. I understood the poem more because I actually get the deeper meaning. 

Working Together
by David Whyte

We shape our self
to fit this world

and by the world
are shaped again.

The visible
and the invisible

working together
in common cause,

to produce 
the miraculous.

I am thinking of the way
the intangible air

passed at speed
round a shaped wing

easily
holds our weight.

So may we, in this life
trust

to those elements
we have yet to see

or imagine,
and look for the true

shape of our own self,
by forming it well

to the great 
intangibles about us.

Poetry Notes 12/2/14

-Medium/format matter 

-Kind of like love 

-Poetry begins with motion 

-Iambic pentameter is like a heartbeat 

-10 is the magic number 

-People who speak in pros are the insignificant characters 

-Tone: the author's attitude towards the characters, the audience, and the subject

-Mood: how the readers feel 

-Theme: central message 

Poem scoring 1-10 

1- 6 because I didn't really like it 

2-6 I like the mole part 

3-6 I like the message 

4- 9 the contradictions are a great vision

5-7 I heard this poem before it was in a poem book when I was elementary school 

6- 7 I like the part that goes ideas, language, even the phrase each other 

Hamlet Act 5 Notes

• Hamlet starts thinking about dealth hence the graveyard scene. 
• Hamlet describes Laertes as a noble and Hamlet is shocked to find that Ophelia has died and Gertrude comments on how she thought Ophelia would have been Hamlets wife. 
• Laertes jumps into the grave in grief. Hamlet is appalled and jumps in after him and Hanlet tells Laertes that he can hurt him 
• Hamlet declares that he loved Ophelia while the Queen blames Hamlet for everything.
• Claudius tells Laertes that they will push on with the duel as soon as possible. 
• Hamlet shows his belief that there is a divinity behind mans actions and his new belief comes from how he got back to Denmark. 
• Hamlet now has his reasons to kill Claudius and give the four of them to Horatio. Hamlet also regrets his confrontation with Laertes because they are both on the same boat. 
• Osric enters to deliver the message of the duel to Hamlet. 
• The Dual: Hamlet apologises to Laertes and it is accepted, Gertrude drinks the poison cup with Claudius making a half hearted attempt to stop her, Laertes feels some guilt for what he is about to do, Hamlet and Laertes wound each other with the poisoned rapier, As an act of remorse Laertes tries to redeem himself by confessing on Claudius, Hamlet stabs Claudius with the poisoned rapier and makes him drink the poisoned wine, Before he dies Laertes tells Hamlet he does not blame him for the deaths of his family, Hamlet asks Horatio to tell his story to the world and names Fortinbras as successor to the throne of Denmark and the new ruler of Denmark has the final say in the play. 
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Hamlet Act 4 Notes

• Gertrude tells Claudius of Polonius’s death & Claudius realises Hamlet could of killed him. 
• Now Claudius is sendin Hamlet away.
• Hamlet doesnt want to tell Rosencrantz & Guildenstern where the body is & accuses them of trying to please the king for their own aims & then they tell Claudius that. 
• Hamlet continues to feign madness when he enters giving riddles about the body of Polonius & then he tell Claudius the body will smell if you don't find him. 
• In the closing soliloquy Claudius says that the letter with Rosencrantz & Guildenstern calls for Hamlets death in England.
• Hamlet compares himself to Fortinbras and he still feels guilt that he still has not revenges his father's death. 
• Ophelia has been driven mad by her father’s death and Hamlet’s rejection of her. She enters singing to the king and queen. Gertude thinks the turn of these events might lead to serious misfortune.
• We find that Laertes has returned to seek vengeance for his father’s murder. Laertes entrance gives the idea that not all the Danish people are happy with Claudius’s reign as they call for Laertes to be king. Claudius lets Laertes talk to let him be calm. Laertes gets his revenge and gets anger at his sister's state of mind. Claudia manipulates laertes. 
• Hamlet has sent a letter to Horatio revealing what happened while at sea & telling of his immediate return. Hamlet also asks him to deliver letters to Claudius.
• The king reads the letter from Hamlet with Laertes. Laertes tells Claudius he trusts him so Claudius tells him how he is going to kill Hamlet.
• Claudius plays on Laertes emotions by asking him if he loved his father enough to act. Hamlet & Laertes will have a dual and at the end of Laertes rapper there will be poison & if that doesn't work Hamlet will get poison wine. 
• Gertrude enters to tell of Ophelia’s death. While the death seems accidental there are hints at suicide. 
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